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Tucker Carlson Conducts Two-Hour Interview with Jeffrey Sachs

Tucker Carlson began his May 28 interview by playing clips of a half-dozen leaders of the Biden Administration saying that the Russian military operation in Ukraine was “unprovoked,” and then allowed Prof. Jeffrey Sachs to respond. Sachs went through a detailed discussion of the careful and deliberate provocation, beginning with the British Crimean War 170 years ago, the promises in 1991 to not move the NATO borders eastward, Brzezinski’s 1990s call for Ukraine to be taken over, the systemic expansion of NATO, the unilateral U.S. cancellation of the ABM and other treaties with Russia, the Maidan coup in Ukraine, and Kiev’s full-scale war on the Donbass launched immediately after the coup.

He identified Madeleine Albright, Richard Holbrooke and Victoria Nuland (straight from Cheney’s office) as the war-party within the Obama Administration, turning the U.S. into the “country of perpetual war.”

He then used his own role in dealing with leaders of all sides historically, describing his work in Poland after the fall of the U.S.S.R., and his success in getting the U.S. to provide financial and other aid to Poland, to help transition away from the Soviet era economic crisis, and his total failure to get the U.S. to do the same thing with Russia. He had worked with Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and had assured them (as he believed) that the U.S. would be delighted to help them transition to what Gorbachev wanted: to become a “normal country, cooperating with the West.”

Asked why Germany went along with the break with Russia, Sachs said that Carlson’s interview with Putin (which he praised as a crucial breakthrough of the Western press blackout of anything Putin had to say) showed Putin answering every question, except the one about why Germany went along. Instead, Putin said, “I don’t get it.” Sachs offered his own answer: “When the U.S. has a military base in your country, it affects everything—Germany is not a free actor.”

He focused on the insanity increasingly taking over Western leaders, pointing to Latvian President Edgars Rinkēvičs saying, “Russia delenda est.” The fact that Biden refuses to talk to Putin is leading to nuclear war.

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