HARLEY SCHLANGER, of The Larouche Organization, interviewed Helga Zepp-LaRouche, founder and chairwoman of the Schiller Institute, regarding the report which will be released this week by Executive Intelligence Review on the Great Reset or Great Transformation and its relationship to the Green New Deal, the policy of Malthusian population reduction which was exposed in the late 1960s by her late husband Lyndon LaRouche. This was a subject of an online conference from the Davos billionaires’ Jan. 25-29.
SCHLANGER: Helga, why is this being so aggressively pushed right now?
HELGA ZEPP-LAROUCHE: The reality is that the entire trans-Atlantic financial system is hopelessly bankrupt. They didn’t do anything when the systemic crisis erupted in 2008 other than massive quantitative easing, money pumping, and now the bubble is about to burst. And this is a whole trick: The Great Reset and the Green New Deal, means they want to inject $30 trillion for a next and final bubble in which only those who participate in the speculation, i.e., the billionaires, would become rich, and the mass of the population would be impoverished. This is not workable.
SCHLANGER: They call this a “financial regime change.” What do they mean by that?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Well, no longer are governments and parliaments supposed to make legislation which decides how things are arranged, but they want to have a green dictatorship, whereby it is the central banks that decide how much meat you can eat, if any at all; how much travel you can do, with what kind of car or e-car, or whatever. This will mean an eco-dictatorship which will make any previous dictatorships look like a picnic.
SCHLANGER: When your husband first took this on in 1971, he described it as a Schacht corporate policy. What does that mean? What is the importance of Schachtianism?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: It’s a form of self-cannibalization of the labor force. The problem is, if you replace coal and fossil fuels and you don’t go to nuclear, you are only relying on so-called green renewable technologies and energy sources, then you go to a very low energy flux-density, which means you cannot maintain modern industrial nations. This will be an attack on the living standards as we have never seen it, and it means genocide for the developing countries, because, as people know, we have a pandemic which is out of control; we have a famine of “biblical dimensions” as the head of the World Food Program David Beasley is warning, again and again. So if you destroy the industrial capacities of the so-called industrial countries by doing this, you leave the third world in a catastrophe. So you call for the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse—hunger, disease, pestilence and war—and that will lead to a gigantic depopulation. And that was the essence of what Hjalmar Schacht [Hitler’s central banker and finance minister] was all about, because his policy ended in the concentration camps, and that is in a different way what we are looking at today.
SCHLANGER: You have called this the “new fascism.” What is the distinction then, between Schachtianism from the ‘30s and ‘40s, and what you mean by “new fascism” today?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Just because it doesn’t have all the aspects of the old fascism of Mussolini, Franco, Hitler and so forth, if you impose that kind of a reduction of the living standard, and you go to energy flux-densities which will mean blackouts, it will mean a collapse of industry, the effect is the same. So one should not look at the label, one should look at the effect of these policies which are a complete destruction of the labor force.
SCHLANGER: You just published an article on the danger of a nuclear war. How is this related to the Great Reset? ["Helga Zepp-LaRouche on the Message from the Biden Administration: Nuclear War Is a Real Possibility,’” http://laroucheorganization.com ]
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: The situation is such that you have an unbelievable anti-China, anti-Russia campaign already, mainly because China is rising, Asia is rising, and there is an effort by certain oligarchical forces in the West to contain that rise. Now, if you destroy the Western economies, if you deindustrialize Europe, the United States, and possibly other countries that go along, then you will get into an unavoidable conflict with China and Russia. China may pay lip service to the Green agenda, but China is pursuing clean, modern coal plants, nuclear fission plants; they have a very ambitious program for thermonuclear fusion, where they’re practically ahead in the world. So the geopolitical opposition is already saying, like Adm. Charles Richard, the head of the U.S. Strategic Command, is already saying that a nuclear war is likely, and that the Pentagon has to shift from the idea that a war is not likely, to that it’s very likely. I mean, if you put all of these things together, this policy inevitably would lead to World War III.
SCHLANGER: In spite of all this, in the last few days you’ve expressed a certain amount of optimism that this can be defeated: What’s the basis for your optimism?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: I think that these policies become so blatant, that there are people starting to discuss it. And I think the only way to defeat it is to get the word out as far as possible, what is behind these policies, make sure that everybody knows that. For example, in 2009, at the Copenhagen climate summit, the G77 countries and the Non-Aligned Movement, they said they will not sign onto such a suicide pact. I’m absolutely sure that Russia and China are very aware of what is the intention of these policies. So the more people, industrialists, heads of small and medium size entrepreneurs (SMEs), Mittelstand entrepreneurs, trade unions—the more people discuss that and understand that there is an alternative to that, to impose the Four Laws of Lyndon LaRouche—a global Glass-Steagall policy; national banks in every country; combine these national banks for a New Bretton Woods credit system, exactly as Franklin D. Roosevelt intended it; and then go for a massive industrialization of Africa and the Middle East which urgently need that. And then we can change this. And I think more and more people inside the United States and Europe will understand that it is in their best interest to not go along with this policy.
SCHLANGER: Given this international potential, what happens in the United States is key. So what should our viewers do to make sure we defeat the Great Reset and the Green New Deal?
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: As I said, get the news about what is behind this out as far as you can; get your friends, your acquaintances, your colleagues familiar with this; make sure your Congressman, your other elected officials, the mayor, city council, that they all know about that, because it will come down to the elected officials to impose this policy, and that will bring them into an absolutely incredible conflict with their conscience and with the interest of the people they are supposed to represent.
SCHLANGER: Helga, thank you for your insights on this, and for your wok on getting this report out. It’s coming out this week in the upcoming issue of Executive Intelligence Review, and shortly afterwards, will be a smaller section of it in a pamphlet distributed by The LaRouche Organization. So Helga, thank you, and I’ll see you soon.
ZEPP-LAROUCHE: Till soon.
